“This is a feeling that began for me as long ago as that Friday, August 30, 1985, the night before he was arrested and police broke into the television show I was watching to broadcast his picture. Looking back, I see it was a turning point for me. They showed his mug shot in the middle of ‘Dallas,’ and I saw something in his eyes. Something that captivated me. It wasn’t as if I knew him. But there was something in his eyes . . . maybe the vulnerability, I don’t really know.”—Doreen Lioy, on her first look at serial killer Richard Ramirez.1
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Soon after the arrest of the infamous serial killer Richard Ramirez was made public, he began to grow a fan base of followers, as many serial killers often do. While living in custody, Ramirez received hundreds of letters from dedicated fans telling him how much they admired him. Indeed, even one of the jurors wrote to him stating that she fell in love with him after seeing him in the court room. One of the most frequent senders of these love letters was young magazine editor Doreen Lioy. She began writing him letters after his arrest in 1985, and, after a while, she began visiting him too. In 1988, he proposed to her. In 1989 he was convicted of thirteen counts of murder, five attempted murders, fourteen burglaries, and eleven sexual assaults. For his crimes, he was sentenced to die in a gas chamber in California. For eight years, the only physical contact the couple had was through a phone and a thick Plexiglas partition. Four months before their wedding, they were offered the opportunity to have physical contact, albeit under the constant watch of armed guards. On October 3, 1996, they married in the San Quentin State Prison of California. Lioy claimed to truly love Ramirez and constantly told anyone who would listen that he was innocent, stating “He’s kind, he’s funny, he’s charming… I think he’s really a great person. He’s my best friend; he’s my buddy.”2 Despite their strong love for one another, however, she had to make sacrifices for their relationship. Her family disowned her after her marriage to Ramirez, and she claimed to live a lonely life secluding herself from her family. One of the family’s main reasons for disowning their daughter was their religion: they were Catholic while Ramirez was a satanist. Tragically, none of her family members attended the wedding, including her twin sister. Ramirez, on the other hand, had his older brother, sister, and niece attend, while his mother refused to travel to the prison.3
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Richard Ramirez was the fifth and final child of Julian and Mercedes Ramirez. His parents were strict, old fashioned, and made him go to church every Sunday. Ramirez was raised to believe in God, but he ultimately strayed from his beliefs during his adolescence, being influenced by his older cousin to turn to satanism and drugs.4 His cousin had returned from the Vietnam War with gruesome stories and trauma from the battlefield, and convinced Ramirez to move to Los Angeles to help him refine his burglary skills in order to buy drugs. When Ramirez was only twelve years old, he was diagnosed with epilepsy. At fifteen, he became addicted to cocaine. Several years later, he was diagnosed with Hepatitis C, most likely contracted by the constant use of intravenous drugs during his adolescence and young adult life. He was also diagnosed with B-cell Lymphoma, which is a type of cancer that forms in B cells that severely affect the immune system.5
Ramirez saw his first murder at a very young age: his cousin shot and killed his wife right in front of him and he did nothing to stop it. After the incident, his cousin was found not guilty by reason of insanity because of his combat record. He was incarcerated in the Texas State Mental Hospital for only four years. After his release, he continued to influence Ramirez. Starting in 1984, Ramirez went on a two-year killing spree. His first known victim was a seventy-nine year old woman, Jeannie Vincow, whom he stabbed and killed in her own home after robbing her. Most of his crimes were committed in a similar fashion, as he would usually break in, rob the individual, and subsequently mutilate and kill them in their own home. He raped and tortured over twenty-five men, women, and children, killing over a dozen of his victims. At the scene of the crime, he made a habit of leaving occult symbols, such as inverted pentagrams, to represent his belief in satanism. On top of it all, he would also force his victims to do things in the name of Satan. This unique action ultimately earned him the name “Night Stalker” by several media.6
In August 1985, a victim was able to get the license number of the car he fled the scene in. Once the police tracked down the car, they discovered it was stolen and his finger prints were found on the rear view mirror. Prior to his crime spree, he had his fingerprints put in the system for some minor traffic violations and for driving without a license.7 His face was all over the news, and the media emphasized his rotting teeth, which made him a very recognizable suspect. He was residing in Arizona when his sketch was released, so he was unaware when he returned to Los Angeles that he was even being looked for. He was then recognized by customers in a liquor store who chased him, beat him, and held him down until a police officer arrived. Days before his own trial, he said he would shoot and kill the prosecutor. This led the officials to take extra measures of safety at the court. On the day of the trial, one of the jurors did not appear. That afternoon, her body was discovered dead in her apartment. After Ramirez’s threats, this led people to believe he had an outside source kill her. After further investigation, however, it was confirmed that her boyfriend had killed her in an unrelated matter. Although Ramirez had nothing to do with it, the eerie nature of the murder struck an even greater fear in the people of California.8 Once he was arrested and his crimes were released to the public, many people wanted to talk to him, and he grew a cult following.9 Doreen eventually caught his attention because she was a magazine editor. It is believed that he used her position to his advantage, since she spoke out against his execution. He was able to avoid and postpone his execution for twenty-three years. Because of the complexity of his case, the trial record was nearly 50,000 pages long. The state Supreme Court didn’t hear Ramirez’s first appeal until 2006. His wife had the influence and voice that provided him a way to stall his death sentence. She wrote him over seventy-five letters in the course of eleven years while he was imprisoned. She even went as far as saying she would kill herself if he was executed. After their marriage, she visited him up to four times a week and was always the first in line. After several years, however, Doreen stopped visiting and stopped writing. After his death, his body wasn’t claimed, meaning that the couple had broken up when he died, but there was no file for a divorce.10
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It is believed that his diagnosis and the confirmation of his link to the murder of a nine year old girl is what lead Doreen Lioy to distance herself from Richard Ramirez. The nine year old girl was raped, murdered, and hung from the basement of a hotel Ramirez used to work in. His DNA was later confirmed to have been found at the scene, which tied him to the murder, although he was never put on trial for it because of a lack of evidence.11 After Lioy found out, she knew he had no remorse and decided to leave him.
On June 7, 2013, Ramirez died in the Marin General Hospital in Kentfield, California. After twenty-three years on death row, Ramirez died due to complications from his B-cell lymphoma. Doreen Lioy now lives a life outside of the limelight. After her split with Ramirez, she hid from the media and it is unknown if she reconciled with her family or friends. Her love for serial killer Richard Ramirez may have brought her momentary fame, but the long-term effects that it had on her life will stand forever evident.12
- Pamela Warrick, “I saw something… that captivated me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1996, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html. ↵
- Pamela Warrick, “I Saw Something… That Captivated Me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1966, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html. ↵
- Pamela Warrick, “I Saw Something… That Captivated Me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1966, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html. ↵
- Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html. ↵
- Richard Winton, “‘Night Stalker’ Richard Ramirez died of complications from lymphoma,” Los Angeles Times, June 17, 2013, https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-xpm-2013-jun-17-la-me-ln-nightstalker-died-of-complications-due-to-lymphoma-also-had-hep-c-20130617-story.html. ↵
- Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html. ↵
- Cyril H. Wecht, Crime Scene Investigation (Elwin Street Limited, 2004), 62-63. ↵
- Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html. ↵
- David Freed, “Citizens Capture Stalker Fugitive,” Los Angeles Times, September 1, 1985, http://documents.latimes.com/citizens-capture-night-stalker/. ↵
- Marsha Ginsburg, “Stalkers Bride,” San Francisco Gate, October 3, 1996, https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/STALKER-S-BRIDE-3121711.php. ↵
- Lois Timnick, “Ramirez Must Die ‘Stalker’ Judge Decides,” Los Angeles Times, November 8, 1989, http://documents.latimes.com/convicted-night-stalker-richard-ramirez-sentenced-death/. ↵
- Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html. ↵
111 comments
Kimberly Rubio
So much of his childhood trauma was left out of the Netflix documentary. I had no idea about the influence of his cousin, his drug use, or his disease diagnosis. While it is unfortunate, it does not absolve him from the gruesome crimes he committed. I did not know about the young girl murdered in the hotel he worked at. I will never understand the fan base.
Hailey Lechuga
It is truly disturbing to hear about people that fetishize or romanticize serial killers. Richard Ramirez’s crimes were gruesome and deeply unsettling, it is puzzling how someone like Doreen would be able to look past that. How he was even allowed to get married while he was on trial for thirteen counts of murder is perplexing. I think it’s extremely disrespectful to the families of the victims, that the person that has caused them so much pain has a “cult” following that supports him despite his grotesque acts. I will never understand what it is behind the human psyche that motivates a person to embrace in this behavior.
Alaina De Leon
This article is definitely a hard subject matter, it is downright chilling. So many effected by someone so evil but yet in this case some seem to overlook that fact. Those who do not hold a person like that accountable and forgive let alone fall for him is horrific. A shift in morals and mental capabilities would in no doubt be put into question. It makes the situation worse and disrespectful to those who lost a person knowing that he has support from her.
Sara Alvirde
It feels sick to read this article knowing there are many psychotic people like Richard Ramirez. Especially that Richard lived normally around his neighbors without a problem. That is the scary part that they keep in all their rage until one day the serial killer plans it or something flips them over. This article was very informative and gave great intel and was even informative about his family members. Even the sickening part that his wife knew what he did and is capable of is terrifying, why wouldn’t you leave.
Desiree Arizmendez
Richard Ramirez was crazy, and disgusting. I have watched so many documentaries on him and read so many articles about the crimes he did and they are all so terrible. The thing that disgusts me the most has to be the fact that so many people had this idealization for him. It is crazy how far people will go down rabbit holes just to gain some love from someone as despicable as richard ramirez. The fact that he had a wife is even worse, how could someone convince themselves to marry someone like that. Someone who has done unforgivable things to people who did not deserve it.
Mohammed Hani Shaik
There’s a lot to say about Richard Ramirez but I’d rather like to focus on Doreen Lioy. To have feelings for such a man who committed crimes of the highest degree is quite absurd but there could possibly have been a reason for that. Ramirez always saw Lioy as means to extend his time before execution but Lioy was the one with true feelings. It is possible that Lioy also had a troubled and lonely past and saw friendship and love in Ramirez. Her family disowning her further worsened the situation as she no longer had anyone but Ramirez. She refused to believe all accusations and tried to have a normal life with him but when he was proven guilty she knew this relationship had no future. One of the best cases of innocent until proven guilty!
Reagan Clark
I do not blame her family for disowning her. I would have as well. How does a person fall in love with a serial killer after they have been arrested? I would understand knowing the person before they committed all the crimes, but after… NO WAY. That lady is crazy. What was she expecting? She married a serial killer and rapist. Her expectations are not high.
Alicia Martinez
The thought of serial killers having normal lives and being in relationships just as ordinary people is one thing that makes them so dangerous. I would have never guessed that serial killers would get fans, let alone a relationship to come out of his arrest. Although Doreen Lioy eventually left that relationship, I still can not understand how she wanted to put time and effort into a relationship with a criminal arrested for numerous murder crimes.
Elizabeth Santos
It’s always so bizarre when murderers get so many admirers, it’s ridiculous and frightening. The fact that Doreen Lioy was watching the news about this rapist, murderer, burglar, and drug addict and decided that she was in love is beyond me. This article does a great job in providing background while painting out the story of this insane killer and his wife. I almost laughed at the part where she said he was charming, as that’s a textbook characteristic for serial killers.
Maria Obregon
The story of Richard Ramirez was one that I heard a couple years ago. This article was very informative though, and I learned much more about him! His story and what he did always shock me when I come across it, and I am always left wondering how he actually had a fan base, and how him and Doreen Lioy met and got married. The whole thing is just insane, and I will never understand how people could support somebody who did such horrible things, and how someone could marry him knowing what he did.