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“This is a feeling that began for me as long ago as that Friday, August 30, 1985, the night before he was arrested and police broke into the television show I was watching to broadcast his picture. Looking back, I see it was a turning point for me. They showed his mug shot in the middle of ‘Dallas,’ and I saw something in his eyes. Something that captivated me. It wasn’t as if I knew him. But there was something in his eyes . . . maybe the vulnerability, I don’t really know.”—Doreen Lioy, on her first look at serial killer Richard Ramirez.1

Doreen and Richard on their wedding day | Courtesy of The San Francisco Gate

Soon after the arrest of the infamous serial killer Richard Ramirez was made public, he began to grow a fan base of followers, as many serial killers often do. While living in custody, Ramirez received hundreds of letters from dedicated fans telling him how much they admired him. Indeed, even one of the jurors wrote to him stating that she fell in love with him after seeing him in the court room. One of the most frequent senders of these love letters was young magazine editor Doreen Lioy. She began writing him letters after his arrest in 1985, and, after a while, she began visiting him too. In 1988, he proposed to her. In 1989 he was convicted of thirteen counts of murder, five attempted murders, fourteen burglaries, and eleven sexual assaults. For his crimes, he was sentenced to die in a gas chamber in California. For eight years, the only physical contact the couple had was through a phone and a thick Plexiglas partition. Four months before their wedding, they were offered the opportunity to have physical contact, albeit under the constant watch of armed guards. On October 3, 1996, they married in the San Quentin State Prison of California. Lioy claimed to truly love Ramirez and constantly told anyone who would listen that he was innocent, stating He’s kind, he’s funny, he’s charming… I think he’s really a great person. He’s my best friend; he’s my buddy.2 Despite their strong love for one another, however, she had to make sacrifices for their relationship. Her family disowned her after her marriage to Ramirez, and she claimed to live a lonely life secluding herself from her family. One of the family’s main reasons for disowning their daughter was their religion: they were Catholic while Ramirez was a satanist. Tragically, none of her family members attended the wedding, including her twin sister. Ramirez, on the other hand, had his older brother, sister, and niece attend, while his mother refused to travel to the prison.3

Doreen Lioy being escorted out of the prison on her wedding day | Courtesy of The San Francisco Gate

Richard Ramirez was the fifth and final child of Julian and Mercedes Ramirez. His parents were strict, old fashioned, and made him go to church every Sunday. Ramirez was raised to believe in God, but he ultimately strayed from his beliefs during his adolescence, being influenced by his older cousin to turn to satanism and drugs.4 His cousin had returned from the Vietnam War with gruesome stories and trauma from the battlefield, and convinced Ramirez to move to Los Angeles to help him refine his burglary skills in order to buy drugs. When Ramirez was only twelve years old, he was diagnosed with epilepsy. At fifteen, he became addicted to cocaine. Several years later, he was diagnosed with Hepatitis C, most likely contracted by the constant use of intravenous drugs during his adolescence and young adult life. He was also diagnosed with B-cell Lymphoma, which is a type of cancer that forms in B cells that severely affect the immune system.5

Ramirez saw his first murder at a very young age: his cousin shot and killed his wife right in front of him and he did nothing to stop it. After the incident, his cousin was found not guilty by reason of insanity because of his combat record. He was incarcerated in the Texas State Mental Hospital for only four years. After his release, he continued to influence Ramirez. Starting in 1984, Ramirez went on a two-year killing spree. His first known victim was a seventy-nine year old woman, Jeannie Vincow, whom he stabbed and killed in her own home after robbing her. Most of his crimes were committed in a similar fashion, as he would usually break in, rob the individual, and subsequently mutilate and kill them in their own home. He raped and tortured over twenty-five men, women, and children, killing over a dozen of his victims. At the scene of the crime, he made a habit of leaving occult symbols, such as inverted pentagrams, to represent his belief in satanism. On top of it all, he would also force his victims to do things in the name of Satan. This unique action ultimately earned him the name “Night Stalker” by several media.6

In August 1985, a victim was able to get the license number of the car he fled the scene in. Once the police tracked down the car, they discovered it was stolen and his finger prints were found on the rear view mirror. Prior to his crime spree, he had his fingerprints put in the system for some minor traffic violations and for driving without a license.7 His face was all over the news, and the media emphasized his rotting teeth, which made him a very recognizable suspect. He was residing in Arizona when his sketch was released, so he was unaware when he returned to Los Angeles that he was even being looked for. He was then recognized by customers in a liquor store who chased him, beat him, and held him down until a police officer arrived. Days before his own trial, he said he would shoot and kill the prosecutor. This led the officials to take extra measures of safety at the court. On the day of the trial, one of the jurors did not appear. That afternoon, her body was discovered dead in her apartment. After Ramirez’s threats, this led people to believe he had an outside source kill her. After further investigation, however, it was confirmed that her boyfriend had killed her in an unrelated matter. Although Ramirez had nothing to do with it, the eerie nature of the murder struck an even greater fear in the people of California.8 Once he was arrested and his crimes were released to the public, many people wanted to talk to him, and he grew a cult following.9 Doreen eventually caught his attention because she was a magazine editor. It is believed that he used her position to his advantage, since she spoke out against his execution. He was able to avoid and postpone his execution for twenty-three years. Because of the complexity of his case, the trial record was nearly 50,000 pages long. The state Supreme Court didn’t hear Ramirez’s first appeal until 2006. His wife had the influence and voice that provided him a way to stall his death sentence. She wrote him over seventy-five letters in the course of eleven years while he was imprisoned. She even went as far as saying she would kill herself if he was executed. After their marriage, she visited him up to four times a week and was always the first in line. After several years, however, Doreen stopped visiting and stopped writing. After his death, his body wasn’t claimed, meaning that the couple had broken up when he died, but there was no file for a divorce.10

Police sketch of Richard Ramirez | Courtesy of Wikipedia Commons

It is believed that his diagnosis and the confirmation of his link to the murder of a nine year old girl is what lead Doreen Lioy to distance herself from Richard Ramirez. The nine year old girl was raped, murdered, and hung from the basement of a hotel Ramirez used to work in. His DNA was later confirmed to have been found at the scene, which tied him to the murder, although he was never put on trial for it because of a lack of evidence.11 After Lioy found out, she knew he had no remorse and decided to leave him. 

On June 7, 2013, Ramirez died in the Marin General Hospital in Kentfield, California. After twenty-three years on death row, Ramirez died due to complications from his B-cell lymphoma. Doreen Lioy now lives a life outside of the limelight. After her split with Ramirez, she hid from the media and it is unknown if she reconciled with her family or friends. Her love for serial killer Richard Ramirez may have brought her momentary fame, but the long-term effects that it had on her life will stand forever evident.12

  1. Pamela Warrick, “I saw something… that captivated me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1996, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html.
  2. Pamela Warrick, “I Saw Something… That Captivated Me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1966, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html.
  3. Pamela Warrick, “I Saw Something… That Captivated Me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1966, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html.
  4. Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.
  5. Richard Winton, “‘Night Stalker’ Richard Ramirez died of complications from lymphoma,” Los Angeles Times, June 17, 2013, https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-xpm-2013-jun-17-la-me-ln-nightstalker-died-of-complications-due-to-lymphoma-also-had-hep-c-20130617-story.html.
  6.  Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.
  7. Cyril H. Wecht, Crime Scene Investigation (Elwin Street Limited, 2004), 62-63.
  8. Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.
  9. David Freed, “Citizens Capture Stalker Fugitive,” Los Angeles Times, September 1, 1985, http://documents.latimes.com/citizens-capture-night-stalker/.
  10. Marsha Ginsburg, “Stalkers Bride,” San Francisco Gate, October 3, 1996, https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/STALKER-S-BRIDE-3121711.php.
  11. Lois Timnick, “Ramirez Must Die ‘Stalker’ Judge Decides,” Los Angeles Times, November 8, 1989, http://documents.latimes.com/convicted-night-stalker-richard-ramirez-sentenced-death/.
  12. Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.

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  • Jose De Julian

    Its mind boggling that a person can love someone that has committed such horrid crimes. Murder, Rape, attempted murder, and being satanist. He would even leave satanic symbols on men, women, and children he murdered. Its crazy to me that Doreen Lioy could marry a person she can’t even touch, or who you know would never get out and die in prison. Its also crazy to me that serial killers have fans and get love letters and letters from fans. How could Doreen give up her family and secluded herself to devote her life to a serial killer in prison? I guess love is love.

  • Malleigh Ebel

    Richard Ramirez was obviously very psychologically damaged. It boggles my mind how someone can rape and torture over twenty-five people. His troubling childhood seems to be a route of this behavior, but I still don’t understand how she fell in love with him. He was in no way able to be innocent, even though she fought for him to be innocent for so long! She wasn’t a satanist, she didn’t believe in the same things he did, however Ramirez made his victims do things in the name of Satan, and even killed and raped a nine-year-old.

  • Nelly Perez

    Disturbing to read that those serial killers have adoring fans. I did not think Lioy would fall in love with a killer. Her family was right to disown her because that was a sign. Sure she loved him, but she should have acknowledged his crimes.

  • Mara Martinez

    i just read an article talking about how Ramirez even became a serial killer. So reading about how someone fell in love with him really surprises me. How he could create a fan base surprises me. I do not understand how there are people out there that support those who kill without reason or without a care in their mind. So the idea of there being true love surprises me.

  • Jose Maria Llano Aranalde

    I can’t understand how people can fall in love with serial killers. Especially when the serial killer is in jail and they can’t actually meet with them. Its also this same people that try to say they are not guilty for the crimes that they have committed. In the case of Ramirez he left clues in every murder or crime that he did. It made it easier to tie the crimes together and figure out that it was him. Crazy to me how someone could love him after all the pain he caused to the family and the victims.

  • Sydney Hardeman

    This article was interesting to read and well done. It is honestly so disturbing and crazy knowing that there are people out there like this. Like Richard and Doreen both. This story definitely gave me Ted Bundy vibes, but the difference is Ted’s wife was unaware of what he was doing, if I remember correctly. But it was a very well-written and interesting article to read.

  • Gabriella Urrutia

    This was a very interesting article to read. It’s crazy to think that Ramirez had so many fans that would send him letters to jail. They all knew what he did but they still admired him and were fans of his. The fact that he was able to postpone his execution was very shocking. He was using Doreen because of the fact that she was a magazine editor and was able to use her voice to influence others that he was innocent. It took her so long to realize what kind of person he really was.

  • Kasandra Ramirez Ferrer

    I think this is an interesting article but while I was reading it I felt a twist in my stomach and it was also scary. I found surprising how people could be “fans” of a person like this after how he manipulated so many people and all the things he had done, he still had the support from someone and their love. I think these people have mental problems and need help, these people looked up to satanist took innocent lives like they were nothing. This is one example of how today’s society is so wrong and poisoned that creates people who are willing to make these evil things.

  • Gabriel Lopez

    It’s interesting to think of why people would follow Ramirez, let alone fall in love with him. It’s scary to think about how one of his jurors was murdered and if it was coincidental to Ramirez’s case at all. I also wonder what Doreen Lioy said to have Ramirez’s execution delayed for that much longer. It’s truly horrifying what Ramirez has done and how he probably traumatized the families of his victims.

  • Nicole Ortiz

    This article was so intriguing yet unbelievable in the sense that I don’t understand why so many women fall for these serial killers. Like it makes me curious to know that if its just something about them that captures their attention or whatever it is because this happened with the infamous Ted Bundy as well. But despite how intriguing these serial killers are, it brings me peace knowing that they’re either in prison or dead already because of all of their terrible crimes and murders.

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