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“This is a feeling that began for me as long ago as that Friday, August 30, 1985, the night before he was arrested and police broke into the television show I was watching to broadcast his picture. Looking back, I see it was a turning point for me. They showed his mug shot in the middle of ‘Dallas,’ and I saw something in his eyes. Something that captivated me. It wasn’t as if I knew him. But there was something in his eyes . . . maybe the vulnerability, I don’t really know.”—Doreen Lioy, on her first look at serial killer Richard Ramirez.1

Doreen and Richard on their wedding day | Courtesy of The San Francisco Gate

Soon after the arrest of the infamous serial killer Richard Ramirez was made public, he began to grow a fan base of followers, as many serial killers often do. While living in custody, Ramirez received hundreds of letters from dedicated fans telling him how much they admired him. Indeed, even one of the jurors wrote to him stating that she fell in love with him after seeing him in the court room. One of the most frequent senders of these love letters was young magazine editor Doreen Lioy. She began writing him letters after his arrest in 1985, and, after a while, she began visiting him too. In 1988, he proposed to her. In 1989 he was convicted of thirteen counts of murder, five attempted murders, fourteen burglaries, and eleven sexual assaults. For his crimes, he was sentenced to die in a gas chamber in California. For eight years, the only physical contact the couple had was through a phone and a thick Plexiglas partition. Four months before their wedding, they were offered the opportunity to have physical contact, albeit under the constant watch of armed guards. On October 3, 1996, they married in the San Quentin State Prison of California. Lioy claimed to truly love Ramirez and constantly told anyone who would listen that he was innocent, stating He’s kind, he’s funny, he’s charming… I think he’s really a great person. He’s my best friend; he’s my buddy.2 Despite their strong love for one another, however, she had to make sacrifices for their relationship. Her family disowned her after her marriage to Ramirez, and she claimed to live a lonely life secluding herself from her family. One of the family’s main reasons for disowning their daughter was their religion: they were Catholic while Ramirez was a satanist. Tragically, none of her family members attended the wedding, including her twin sister. Ramirez, on the other hand, had his older brother, sister, and niece attend, while his mother refused to travel to the prison.3

Doreen Lioy being escorted out of the prison on her wedding day | Courtesy of The San Francisco Gate

Richard Ramirez was the fifth and final child of Julian and Mercedes Ramirez. His parents were strict, old fashioned, and made him go to church every Sunday. Ramirez was raised to believe in God, but he ultimately strayed from his beliefs during his adolescence, being influenced by his older cousin to turn to satanism and drugs.4 His cousin had returned from the Vietnam War with gruesome stories and trauma from the battlefield, and convinced Ramirez to move to Los Angeles to help him refine his burglary skills in order to buy drugs. When Ramirez was only twelve years old, he was diagnosed with epilepsy. At fifteen, he became addicted to cocaine. Several years later, he was diagnosed with Hepatitis C, most likely contracted by the constant use of intravenous drugs during his adolescence and young adult life. He was also diagnosed with B-cell Lymphoma, which is a type of cancer that forms in B cells that severely affect the immune system.5

Ramirez saw his first murder at a very young age: his cousin shot and killed his wife right in front of him and he did nothing to stop it. After the incident, his cousin was found not guilty by reason of insanity because of his combat record. He was incarcerated in the Texas State Mental Hospital for only four years. After his release, he continued to influence Ramirez. Starting in 1984, Ramirez went on a two-year killing spree. His first known victim was a seventy-nine year old woman, Jeannie Vincow, whom he stabbed and killed in her own home after robbing her. Most of his crimes were committed in a similar fashion, as he would usually break in, rob the individual, and subsequently mutilate and kill them in their own home. He raped and tortured over twenty-five men, women, and children, killing over a dozen of his victims. At the scene of the crime, he made a habit of leaving occult symbols, such as inverted pentagrams, to represent his belief in satanism. On top of it all, he would also force his victims to do things in the name of Satan. This unique action ultimately earned him the name “Night Stalker” by several media.6

In August 1985, a victim was able to get the license number of the car he fled the scene in. Once the police tracked down the car, they discovered it was stolen and his finger prints were found on the rear view mirror. Prior to his crime spree, he had his fingerprints put in the system for some minor traffic violations and for driving without a license.7 His face was all over the news, and the media emphasized his rotting teeth, which made him a very recognizable suspect. He was residing in Arizona when his sketch was released, so he was unaware when he returned to Los Angeles that he was even being looked for. He was then recognized by customers in a liquor store who chased him, beat him, and held him down until a police officer arrived. Days before his own trial, he said he would shoot and kill the prosecutor. This led the officials to take extra measures of safety at the court. On the day of the trial, one of the jurors did not appear. That afternoon, her body was discovered dead in her apartment. After Ramirez’s threats, this led people to believe he had an outside source kill her. After further investigation, however, it was confirmed that her boyfriend had killed her in an unrelated matter. Although Ramirez had nothing to do with it, the eerie nature of the murder struck an even greater fear in the people of California.8 Once he was arrested and his crimes were released to the public, many people wanted to talk to him, and he grew a cult following.9 Doreen eventually caught his attention because she was a magazine editor. It is believed that he used her position to his advantage, since she spoke out against his execution. He was able to avoid and postpone his execution for twenty-three years. Because of the complexity of his case, the trial record was nearly 50,000 pages long. The state Supreme Court didn’t hear Ramirez’s first appeal until 2006. His wife had the influence and voice that provided him a way to stall his death sentence. She wrote him over seventy-five letters in the course of eleven years while he was imprisoned. She even went as far as saying she would kill herself if he was executed. After their marriage, she visited him up to four times a week and was always the first in line. After several years, however, Doreen stopped visiting and stopped writing. After his death, his body wasn’t claimed, meaning that the couple had broken up when he died, but there was no file for a divorce.10

Police sketch of Richard Ramirez | Courtesy of Wikipedia Commons

It is believed that his diagnosis and the confirmation of his link to the murder of a nine year old girl is what lead Doreen Lioy to distance herself from Richard Ramirez. The nine year old girl was raped, murdered, and hung from the basement of a hotel Ramirez used to work in. His DNA was later confirmed to have been found at the scene, which tied him to the murder, although he was never put on trial for it because of a lack of evidence.11 After Lioy found out, she knew he had no remorse and decided to leave him. 

On June 7, 2013, Ramirez died in the Marin General Hospital in Kentfield, California. After twenty-three years on death row, Ramirez died due to complications from his B-cell lymphoma. Doreen Lioy now lives a life outside of the limelight. After her split with Ramirez, she hid from the media and it is unknown if she reconciled with her family or friends. Her love for serial killer Richard Ramirez may have brought her momentary fame, but the long-term effects that it had on her life will stand forever evident.12

  1. Pamela Warrick, “I saw something… that captivated me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1996, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html.
  2. Pamela Warrick, “I Saw Something… That Captivated Me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1966, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html.
  3. Pamela Warrick, “I Saw Something… That Captivated Me,” Los Angeles Times, October 3, 1966, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-10-03-ls-49781-story.html.
  4. Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.
  5. Richard Winton, “‘Night Stalker’ Richard Ramirez died of complications from lymphoma,” Los Angeles Times, June 17, 2013, https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-xpm-2013-jun-17-la-me-ln-nightstalker-died-of-complications-due-to-lymphoma-also-had-hep-c-20130617-story.html.
  6.  Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.
  7. Cyril H. Wecht, Crime Scene Investigation (Elwin Street Limited, 2004), 62-63.
  8. Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.
  9. David Freed, “Citizens Capture Stalker Fugitive,” Los Angeles Times, September 1, 1985, http://documents.latimes.com/citizens-capture-night-stalker/.
  10. Marsha Ginsburg, “Stalkers Bride,” San Francisco Gate, October 3, 1996, https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/STALKER-S-BRIDE-3121711.php.
  11. Lois Timnick, “Ramirez Must Die ‘Stalker’ Judge Decides,” Los Angeles Times, November 8, 1989, http://documents.latimes.com/convicted-night-stalker-richard-ramirez-sentenced-death/.
  12. Douglas Martin, “Richard Ramirez, the ‘Night stalker’ Killer Dies at 53,” The New York Times, June 7, 2013, https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/us/night-stalker-killer-richard-ramirez-dies-at-53.html.

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  • Carolina Wieman

    It seemed to me as if trauma had played a huge role in Ramirez’s young life, leading him to drugs and satanist beliefs. It makes one nearly question the sanity or mental history of Doreen and how one could find love in such a corrupt person. I would love to read more about her history. Doreen having come from a Catholic family, it is interesting that she fell in love with someone with as many charges as him, but then fell out of love with him for the same reasons. I think that there should have been further investigation regarding her mental health and history.

  • Shecid Sanchez

    Being a criminal justice major it fascinates me to learn about serial killers even if I already know their story it’s incredible to see it from a different perspective. I love to learn about their childhood of what drove them to their first kill, but I find it awful to know that serial killers actually have fan bases that write to them and have people fall in love with them. Personally I love learning about serial killers but I am not a fan, but I never knew they would have actual fans.

  • Makayla Soto

    This article is so well written! I first heard about this serial killer on the Netflix documentary they made. But you go more into detail about his fan base side! It’s fascinating putting things into perspective of loving a serial killer and trying to understand what they were thinking! I could never imagine what was truly going on through those girl’s mind. But overall good article!

  • Emily Rodriguez

    While there have been many articles, even a documentary about Richard Ramirez, I believe the author did a really good job at telling his story, and the different things that went into his life, trial, and sentencing. While serial killer stories can be interesting to read, I find it puzzling how a serial killer can grow a fan base. I also found it strange that Lioy fell in love with him as a serial killer, but then also fell out of love with him because he was a serial killer, as if the nine-year-old little girl is what made her draw the line. Overall, this was a very intriguing article and the author told his story in a captivating way.

  • Ariana Vargas Lopez

    I am very familiar with the serial killer Richard Ramirez. I think Ramirez’s teeth is something that makes him stand out and that he had fans. I cannot understand how many serial killers had fans it makes you think about if some of the fans will come as far as following Ramirez’s footsteps.

  • Maria Luevano

    I had always heard of Richard Ramirez and his story, but I never know about his relationship with Doreen Lioy. It is very interesting that she would choose to see a good side to him, and maybe there was that the public never knew. However, he did horrible things and I am shocked over Lioy’s feelings for him. Hearing about his childhood saddens me, and he probably wouldn’t have gone down the path he went down with the correct guidance and discipline.

  • Anissa Navarro

    Coming from El Paso, the birthplace of Richard Ramirez, his name is one I have heard of often. I have learned so much about him and his case yet I just learned something new. I never knew he married one of his fans, I never made that connection. I understand why people would want to learn more about serial killers, but I will never understand the fascination enough to marry one. Doreen had fallen for him knowing everything that was being said about him, knowing what he was being charged with, and knowing everything he had done, yet she still chose to marry him in the end. I do not understand how someone can do that, and I understand why it took the case about the 9-year-old girl for her to realize he is incapable of remorse, but why did it take until then considering what was already mentioned about him.

  • Mariah Podwika

    Though I do understand being interested in serial killers and wanting to understand them, I will never understand the people who idolize them and fall in love with them. It’s one thing to research them and gain knowledge and understanding about them but it’s a whole other thing to treat them as if they did nothing wrong. I think this article was really important to cover parts of his life that weren’t covered in some of the documentaries about him and it was important to cover his fan base and why it is so wrong to idolize people like him.

  • Maria Ferrer

    It is the first time I hear about Richard Ramirez the, “Night Stalker” serial killer. It is impressive how many women send him letters saying how much they admire him, that is not something you hear about serial killers. Overall, I think the author did an amazing job telling the story of his life by including important details of his life. I have never been able to understand why certain individuals can commit unimaginable crimes against innocent people; however, you can tell that the environment Ramirez grew up in did not help him.

  • Celeste Loera

    His childhood was so traumatic from seeing a murder to being influenced by bad things, he never had anyone to guide him. I also still find it so hard to believe he has a fanbase. I love learning about crime and criminals but it’s so different when these people admire these horrible killers. It reminds me of when Ted Bundy married while he was also on death row and even have fans show up to his trials. It is fascinating and disturbing how these people have such devoted fans.

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